Conclave of the Four Winds heroic mode killed

gratz :)

Keep up the good work! I haven't tackled raids yet since we are missing tanks, but hopefully I can try those encounters too at some point!

Congratulations. I enjoy checking your website for boss updates, keep up the good work. You guys are a motivation factor for all of us.

You're the "Roger Federer" of wow :)

Gratz!

10 or 25?

Ensidia is the roger federer of WoW haha

Since Ensidia did both their heroic encounters on 10 man you have once again shown the world that you are the best. Scandinavian guild beating the hell out of Ensidia that makes them go 10s instead of 25s since they can't measure up to you guys. I bet some of you understand swedish so all I have to say is: Stort grattis, fortsätt så och klara även denna expansionen som #1 i världen!!!

Gz!

Many grats

gz :)
You should probalby start making screenshots of every boss kill just to avoid any discussion of 10/25 man issue although you clearly stated that you're just interested in 25man kills, now that even ensidia is doing 10man

Any movies inc?

And yes, gz.

grats guys! :) hope you soon make some videos from hc kills!

Ensidia did Nefarian in 25 man tho ;p

Ensidia does also consist of alot of scandinavian ppl :)

you guys understand that 10s and 25s are equally hard yeh?

I knew this whole 10/25 thing would cause contraversy, they are equivilant bro, you understand that word?

All this qq about 10man or 25 man - They are tuned to be equally as hard atm.

It may seem so at the first glance but in reality this case is different.
Look at it this way - after killing 12 bosses on 25 man the first reset they had 5 items from each boss and could use them selectively to gear up 10 people in preparation for doing 10 man hard modes the next reset, whereas guilds who try to continue 25 man will have gear evenly spread. A 10 man guild who cleared 12 bosses first reset would have gotten 2 items from each.

So in this assumed situation the said 25 man guild can spread 60 items between 10 people(minus the not needed,bad,wrong spec ones) and the said 10 man - only 24, and the 25 man planning on doing 25 man hcs - 60 items spread between 25+people.

So when you take each encounter difficulty and present it to a raid of 10 or 25 people who are all equally geared - they may be very closely tuned. But since Ensidia had an option to maximize the average ilvl of the select 10 people(which tbh I think they made sure to do) the reality becomes this: Paragon beat the encounters with raid wide average gear much worse then Ensidia, and therefore fully deserve the credit they are given.

Maybe 10 and 25 are equal but it's pretty harder to find or to put together 25 people that have lvl to down those. 10 will ever be easier because it's easy to find 10 people that can manage hero that fast than 25.

In theory, sure, but organizing 10 members is harder than 25 - obviously. Anyone who thinks it's the exact same difficulty are dumb - and it seems like you are one of them.

So Nefarian was killed in 10 man because they wanted to spice up the raiding by doing 10 man raids for while ?

Listen the reason for Ensidia going 10 man was and I quote: "Healers were MIA". So don't start talking about them maximizing the average ilvl of the select 10 people since that is just not the truth. Learn the facts first please. Paragon is the top 25 man guild in the worlds since it's easier to get 10 people to a raid when they are expecting to do 25 man. Ensidia is not as hardcore anymore as they once were, 25s over 10s if you have decided to be a hardcore 25 man guild. They have lost the respect they once had. Paragon you deserve the #1 and I hope you can beat the other encounters faster on 25 man than Ensidia does on 10 man. Cheers

Due to a glitch in the game which made it not possible for them to do it on 25 man that week and I guess they wanted to get to heroics so they had no choice. Ensidia had a choice and took the easy way out.

this is a lame excuse for not beeing able to compete with the best. which is clearly paragon!

Well as I stated in my last comment Paragon is superior to Ensidia. Just wanted to post the reason for why Ensidia choose to take the easy way out instead of trying to play at the same level as the other top guilds

Cleary some people dont know all the facts. It was a well known fact that there was respawn issues with Nefarion, hence why almost all guilds who have killed him, done it on 10man. Not for ease, or whatever, due to a bug.

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paragon= hjälp av GM därför suger dom

Both paragon and ensidia had nefarian bugging, paragon just wanted to be sure to have nef down so they could do blackrock heroic while ensidia waited for blizz to fix the bugg.

Grats guys! Keep it up for us!

Sorry to nitpick but just for the record, Finland isn't Scandinavian country. Use the 'Nordic' instead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_countries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries

/geography lesson/

Finland, Iceland, the Faroe Islands and Greenland are sometimes considered part of Scandinavia.

So you can have your lesson back

go suomi!

gratz boys, making us all really proud to be fin :) <3

Finland isn't officially a part of Scandinavia..
Whats ur point?

OMG the offtopicness amazes me. Gratz to Paragon for their progression in the 25-man content, and also to Ensidia in the 10-man content. Both are very decent achievements!
I'm curious, however, to your raid composition during these kills.. And how flexible do you guys think it is?

Good luck in the new week!

Gz, btw ensidia sucks