4.0.6 Ret paladin help

[hylinus]

Hello, I was wondering if anyone could crunch some numbers for me (I don't even know where to start) about the stat values of crit/haste/mastery come 4.0.6. I would be extremely grateful, thanks.

[Iiris]

The most recent data collected from EJ forums says:

Str - 2.22
Crit - 0.82
Haste - 0.80
Mastery - 0.82

some report mastery little better. Basically all secondary stats are pretty much the same. I'm personally going for mastery if the numbers stay same, because some simulations show that it would be superior to other secondary stats, the difference won't still be too huge.

[hylinus]

Thanks for the reply. Do you know what the soft cap on haste will be?

[Iiris]

It's 3978 rating, same as now. This takes CS to 3 seconds.

[Fenric]

I've heard alot of talk about stat weight but nothing that makes sense to me...

Crit effects all stats so has a set weight

Haste however effects CS speed more than other attacks, and as CS speed effects TV by proxy, the more Mastery you have the higher the weight of Haste and likewise Haste will have a minor return effect on Mastery weight

So surely as the weights are considered close, once you have enough Mastery, Haste will pass Crit in weight?

I keep hearing people saying its Mastery>Crit>Haste but as Crit is the only stat with a solid set point, I believe it would be Mastery>Haste>Crit once a sizeable amount of Mastery has been reached.

As you guys are the 'big dogs' I'd like to hear your thoughts, I keep being told that Crit>Haste no matter what but this doesn't seem to make sense to me with the dependancies...

[Fineone]

According to EJ, Haste is your worst stat now......even reforge out of it if you need to get hit or even expertise, or even reforge it into crit or mastery...it was a huge increase on my dps, aparently our procs are more than enough haste for our stats atm. :) I'm no guru at the game, but i do know what worked for me greatly. Not an exageration when i say my damage went up about 4-5k difference over all. If anyone knows any other good tips, hollar at me, always room for improvement imo xD