which trinket to use,or which one is better?

which trinket to use,or which one is better?

Post 25 Jan 2011 00:05

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Hi.Got a problem and dont know how to solve it. I bought my first trinket for valors,but i really dont know which second trinked i should use for my retri pala.Do you think is better CRUSHING WEIGHT from Councils with haste proc,or Darkmoon Card: Hurricane from DmC event with some nature dmg.Thx for your tips and sry for my bad english

Re: which trinket to use,or which one is better?

Post 25 Jan 2011 07:54

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crushing weight is BiS because of its abnormable amount of str
second bis trinket is Heart of rage from Chimaeron

Re: which trinket to use,or which one is better?

Post 25 Jan 2011 11:26

User avatarIiris
 
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Use DMC Hurricane its best in slot trinket atm and crushing weight is terrible.

Trinket ranking goes: DMC > H Heart of Rage > License to Slay > Heart of Rage > H Crushing Weight > Heart of Solace (346) > Crushing Weight

Re: which trinket to use,or which one is better?

Post 25 Jan 2011 14:43

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It seems kind of odd to me that Heart of Solace is ahead of Crushing weight...since the str proc should average 285 str and the haste proc on Crushing weight should equal 321....which should mean its completely blowing away Solace

Re: which trinket to use,or which one is better?

Post 25 Jan 2011 15:15

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Zefa wrote:It seems kind of odd to me that Heart of Solace is ahead of Crushing weight...since the str proc should average 285 str and the haste proc on Crushing weight should equal 321....which should mean its completely blowing away Solace

With the 1/5 uptime of Cataclysm proc trinkets, Heart of Solace averages out to 342str assuming it procs as soon as the ICD ends (even if it doesn't, it's very likely to stay ahead on average Strength). Also as the secondary stat is the passive one on Heart of Solace, it can be reforged to a more beneficial one - which in the case of Ret isn't significant, but noteworthy nonetheless. You would need very bad luck with the Solace proc for it to not beat Crushing Weight

Crushing Weight might be the better option in an encounter with low melee uptime, as wasting part of the proc is less significant when the proc is a secondary stat. Although, a Haste proc when not in melee range is wasted (almost) entirely, while a Str proc at least boosts your last resort of Exorcism/Judgement spamming. Bleh, taking the encounter in consideration in trinket choice tends to go a bit too deep into number crunching.. :P

Re: which trinket to use,or which one is better?

Post 25 Jan 2011 16:00

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Thx for Info Iiris.Helps me a lot.

Re: which trinket to use,or which one is better?

Post 25 Jan 2011 23:43

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Rammurg wrote:
Zefa wrote:It seems kind of odd to me that Heart of Solace is ahead of Crushing weight...since the str proc should average 285 str and the haste proc on Crushing weight should equal 321....which should mean its completely blowing away Solace

With the 1/5 uptime of Cataclysm proc trinkets, Heart of Solace averages out to 342str assuming it procs as soon as the ICD ends (even if it doesn't, it's very likely to stay ahead on average Strength). Also as the secondary stat is the passive one on Heart of Solace, it can be reforged to a more beneficial one - which in the case of Ret isn't significant, but noteworthy nonetheless. You would need very bad luck with the Solace proc for it to not beat Crushing Weight

Crushing Weight might be the better option in an encounter with low melee uptime, as wasting part of the proc is less significant when the proc is a secondary stat. Although, a Haste proc when not in melee range is wasted (almost) entirely, while a Str proc at least boosts your last resort of Exorcism/Judgement spamming. Bleh, taking the encounter in consideration in trinket choice tends to go a bit too deep into number crunching.. :P
Its a 1/5th uptime now? I thought it was 1/6?

Re: which trinket to use,or which one is better?

Post 31 Jan 2011 01:32

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Am I the only one that likes the hellscream reach trinket? Although the mastery is bad, some of it is reforgable, and mastery will be buffed in the patch. I think it is quite useful to create a macro that uses the trinket, AW, guardian, and golemblood potion, with all of those benefits stacking, you can get up to an obscene amount of strength(especially with a heart of rage proc), and combined with AW results in an awesome amount of DPS in a 20-30 second period of time. let me know what you guys think.