Heroic Nefarian

[nightindeuce]

A question - do you have to defeat all 5 heroic modes every week to get to Nefarian, or do only have to beat them once to get access to the endboss on heroic?

[Hermanni]

Blizzard originally stated that once you killed any boss in normal, you couldn't switch back to heroic. However around when people proved this false by skipping Magmaw they reverted to saying it's working as intended. As an answer to your question, as long as you've met the requirements to activate heroic mode (killed Al'akir, Cho'gall or Nefarian on normal in their respective instances) you can "skip" your way to any boss you wish to kill. As long as you've killed Nefarian on normal, you can kill every other boss on normal and go for heroic Nefarian. Skipping farmbosses doesn't really make much sense, though.

[nightindeuce]

I'm asking the question more concerning heroic Atramedes, which is being changed to have a ten minute enrage timer. I know a lot of guilds have cheesed this fight (14 minute kills) with the whole running outside the room business, and I was just wondering if those guilds would even be able to attempt heroic Nefarian without killing heroic Atramedes that week.

Not suggesting anything about your kill, just curious. Thanks for the info!

[zYN]

Short answer: yes, they can.

Long answer: yeeeeeeeeeeeeess.

[ique]

another question, what has changed to heroic nefarian since your first kill? you dont get the buff after MC or any other thing?
thanks!

[nightindeuce]

I am interested in this as well. I read on Ensidia's website that the massive damage of Rip was 'fixed' since your kill. Would love to hear your thoughts on the matter.

[zYN]

another question, what has changed to heroic nefarian since your first kill? you dont get the buff after MC or any other thing?
thanks!

Nothing. Rip just doesn't do the buffed damage anymore.

There's some bullshit buffs being linked and bad information going around that the whole mechanic has changed - it hasn't.


If you want to hear our thoughts on it, you can check the comments section on the Nefarian kill. There's a link to the MMO-Champ thread and a few other random thoughts in the comments themselves.

[ique]

so the tactics are the same? maybe a bit changes to get more dps?
im asking this because i feel bad for the other guilds and the race overall. i really hope the mechanics hasnt changed much and he is still killable in the current gear.
btw, nice damage from mancheese on sinestra :)

[Farnion]

hotfix is now "offical":

Rip and Bane of Doom damage is no longer affected by the damage increase of Stolen Power when engaging Nefarian.

[zYN]

The tactics are 1:1 the same it seems, yeah. Only going by from the one pull we did while mopping up BWD on the last day.