Unholy DPSDK Question

[Onzay]

Hey there,

I've just recently gone for the Unholy 2H DPS spec on my Deathknight, and am currently trying to get my rotation right...

Did some theorycrafting, asked some questions to other DK's, looked on EJ forums and the Cookie-cutter rotation seems to be

Single-
IT, PS, BS, SS, BS, DC -HoW-, DC.
IT, PS, BS, SS, BS, DC, DC.

However with that rotation by the time I refresh my Diseases, they still have around 10-11seconds left on them. Is this a problem? I went for the spec 15/0/56 as I don't have enough Haste to go without UHP. I dropped Bladed Armor to 3, Morbidity to 2, Necrosis to 3 and put 2 in Epidemic, 1 in Bone Shield and 2 in UHP.

I'm starting to get the feeling that Epidemic is overkill on my Disease rotations. Is this talent purely for AoE purposes to keep the DoT's going longer on non-focus target mobs? or is there another reason.

(Took Devah's spec and did the following changes above)

Oh, my "multi target" rotation is-
IT, PS, Pest, DnD, DC, HoW.
IT, PS, Pest, BS, SS, DC, DC.

Thanks for your time,

Onzay of Archaic Order, Lightning's Blade.

[deva]

Hello, sorry about late respond.

I personally didn't go uh back then when it was it, ps ,ss ,bs ,bs ,dc spam cause it was just way too booring
and i settled with dw frost eventhou it did crapier dps, but atleast it was fun to play.

Spec you can find here:
Unholy 17/0/54
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMVZZf ... Iqo:LpbVmM
If you are planning go to AoE heavy fight just replace Dark Death with DnD glyph

Now, what dk's in our guild do? Get greatness, death's choise or some use trinket, 4pt t9, sigil of virulence and get addon that tracks ur procs (power auras, need to know)
then this is my rota and i assume its the same all of our dk's are using:

it, ps, ss, bs, bs -> normally u should have all ur procs up by now, if not just use extra SS and blood tap bs in the beginning of next rota to get all procs up
(uh str,uh might, uh force, greatness, paragon or use trinket and orc racial).
Start all over again it, ps , ss, bs ,bs -> pop haste pot(ask ur raid leader pop lust) gark, and then just keep going with 2xss 2xbs 2x dc and HoW when u have free gcd
next rota when ur diseases are about to drop use pestilence(disease glyphed) instead of bs in the end of ur rota.
MAKE SURE that these procced diseases DO NOT drop, if they do its insane dps loss.
Do not let your RP overflow either, this rota have some breathing room here and there so use DC when your RP is about to go to cap.

So basically what u do here is u roll ur procced diseases thru whole fight and thats what makes insane dps, u get 4k~ disease crits all the time which is huge.
If this doesn't make any sense contact me ingame -> devah

This spec principle variates hugely from EJ one. Forget the spamming same rota, in this spec u get to hit more SS and i like big numbers!
Hopefully this clarified something :)



PUG onyxia :twisted:

[Aeonus]

hi,

reading your post about uh theory helped me alot about understanding the spec dks of paragon are using but there is one thing i cant understand in the spec:
since i havent found any other way to get to these information (only in paragon dks are using this spec ^^) i would like to ask you some questions and hope it wont be annoying or hinder you in any way

in the spec you posted there are 2 points used for morbidity and 3 points used for necrosis
what are the difference about using 3 points for morbidity and just 2 for necrosis and wouldnt it be a better way for doing more dps?
does it depends on weapon dps or is there another value important here?

apart of the cd of death and decay, wouldnt be the 5% more death coil dmg more worth than 4% white hit dps?

there is also one thing i dont understand: as you said you would pop blood tap for a extra blood strike(if something had not procced at that time) and you all use bone shield. would you refresh bone shield during the fight or is it just only a boost for the beginning of the fight?

i hope you dont misunderstand me in any way, since my english is in a very bad state, and hope that you(or any other of the dks, since you all are very neat guys :)) can spend some time to help me get ahead about these questions

and wish you all good progress and good health
Sincerely,
Aeonus a great fan of yours :)

[deva]

Hey!

I'm glad that we could help you out bro! It doesn't annoy me at all,
actually it's nice to have conversation about this since it's something new.

I have been researching recounts quite a bit, for my experience auto attacks just do
more damage than DC over all so therefore 2 points to morbidity and 3 to necrosis.
It's good to have 2 points in morbidity to be AoE capable and boost DC and Dark Death glyph also.

Blood Tap is just for the beginning, u should have Bone Armor up when you engage to combat.
It's vital for this spec that u get ALL procs up at the same time and keep rolling procced diseases thru whole fight.
Even thou u are without Bone Shield for couple of seconds (do not refresh it with unholy rune).
When u need to refresh it, do it with Blood Tap after 1min of fight it's still very much worth the effort when u r checking the damage meters :twisted:

[Aeonus]

hi,

thanks for the very fast response and the answers helped me alot :)

sincerely
Aeonus

[deva]

My pleasure :)

[Jesus]

Mate in this sentence:

"it, ps, ss, bs, bs -> normally u should have all ur procs up by now, if not just use extra SS and blood tap bs in the beginning of next rota to get all procs up"

I don't really understand what you mean by ".. in the beginning of next rota to get all procs up"

1st of all what do you mean by in the beginning of next rota?
2nd ".. and blood tap bs in .. " in this sentence do you, by writing 'bs' mean blood strike or bone shield?

Finally are yo still using this rotation and spec? ;)

[Nize]

Sort of out dated stuff since you can't keep rolling the +str/ap buffs with disease glyph anymore.