So,
I was wondering how other fellow Resto Shamans are speccing now with 4.0.1. at level 80. Most of the talents are no-brainers but there is some room for variety.
I will go with 0/5/31 - http://wowtal.com/#k=fvy5ZfNs.a5o.shaman.g6jE-
Some words about it:
- Took Focused Insight to test it, can't say the idea of doing damage to heal more thrills me, feels more like a burden
- Left Soothing Rains out since Healing cannot be gained as of now.
- Telluric Currents... WTF is that even doing down there. Should be Tier 1 / 2 talent for Elemental Shamans to reach it. What use does Resto have from it at all.
- Ancestral Resolve or Nature's Guardian is a choice of whatever makes one more happy I suppose. Or leave it out and take 1/2 Soothing Rains
For Glyphs there ain't much choice either. There are only 3 Prime Glyphs that make sense, unless you are fresh on 80 and have mana problems, then the Water Shield Glyph might be useful. Major has only 2 useful ones and Glyph of Healing Stream Totem could also be replaced with Hex, Totemic Recall or Ghost Wolf.
All in all we're looking pretty good I'd say. Full on arsenal of fast heals, big heals, group heals, instant heals, HoTs and a shield.
Questions for others from me would now be:
- What is your (theoretical) opinion on Focus Insight? Will you drop the points in there or not?
- Soothing Rain - worth taking just for the Healing Stream Totem benefit as of now?
- Will you change gems? I was pure Haste or SP / Haste so far and w/o reading up much on number crunching, I don't feel I should do changes until Cata hits.
Remember, all of these questions etc. applies for 4.0.1 on level 80 to 80 content. I expect Cata content to be designed in a way that, for example, a new talent like Focus Insight might be required to use more in order for one to be effective.
Resto 4.0.1
Resto 4.0.1
- meth
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Re: Resto 4.0.1
- Stainez
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Actually, telluric currents is a fuck ton of help, it's ridiculous. I've tested it out In heroic 25 ICC, every lightning bolt that has hit, i've gained around 3k mana PER LB. It's overpowered, at first i thought it was a bug, but it's not. You can spam your heals, and when everyone is topped off, go ahead and gain some mana back.
Focus insight, I didn't really wanna take it, unless you miss you won't gain any mana back, i've tried both focused insight and telluric currents, i found telluric more valuable because of the low mana cost as well, only about 295 lightning bolt mana cost.
Gems will stay the same, haste. Until cata comes out, dunno what else to say lol.
Focus insight, I didn't really wanna take it, unless you miss you won't gain any mana back, i've tried both focused insight and telluric currents, i found telluric more valuable because of the low mana cost as well, only about 295 lightning bolt mana cost.
Gems will stay the same, haste. Until cata comes out, dunno what else to say lol.
Re: Resto 4.0.1
- meth
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Hm thats some good input. Thanks. Might give Telluric Currents a try if I should go OOM in raids.
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Re: Resto 4.0.1
- hiski
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Keep in mind that LB also has a mana cost. Atleast at lvl 85 it only gives 2-3k mana back minus 1.4k what LB costs. Haste also diminishes alot at 85 so cast time is somewhere closer to 2.2s. Still as of right now it's a must have since you will go oom.
Edit. at lvl80 I was having mana problems on Lich King without Telluric Currents. other fights seemed fine without it.
Edit. at lvl80 I was having mana problems on Lich King without Telluric Currents. other fights seemed fine without it.
Re: Resto 4.0.1
- Evita
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I'm pretty sure there hasn't been any real number crunching regarding the gems, I'm probably going to stay haste, I can't see single-target'ing ever being better than Chain Heal spam again.
I feel that Focused Insight may be worth the points, if you know some major damage is incomming, you could shock the boss, and pop out a powerful Healing Rain, or Chain Heal.
As for Telluric Currents, it can be a decent source of mana if you're low, no doubt weird talents, but somewhat useful.
I would use this for 80: http://wowtal.com/#k=f1AAhgmP0.a6d.shaman.
^ If you're lazy, use Nature's Guardian instead of Focused Insight.
Enhancement talents are pretty much inarguable at level 80.
I would use this for 85: http://wowtal.com/#k=f1ADo0lY1.a6d.shaman.3-upE-
^ Same thing with Nature's Guardian and Focused Insight, get Totemtic Reach or Totem Focus, it's up to you.
As for Cleansing Waters, I'm not so sure if it's really worth it, for PvP it definitely is, you'll be cleansing like a mad man, but for PvE, I'm not so sure how much there is to cleanse, and even if there's a lot, every healer can remove the same effects, so it's not really that crucial.
I haven't looked at the whole glyph situation yet, but in my level 85 spec, I included some glyphs, I don't know if that's how it works, it seems like an awful lot of glyphs, whilst writing this, I haven't played for 2 months, so I haven't experienced the new patch.
I feel that Focused Insight may be worth the points, if you know some major damage is incomming, you could shock the boss, and pop out a powerful Healing Rain, or Chain Heal.
As for Telluric Currents, it can be a decent source of mana if you're low, no doubt weird talents, but somewhat useful.
I would use this for 80: http://wowtal.com/#k=f1AAhgmP0.a6d.shaman.
^ If you're lazy, use Nature's Guardian instead of Focused Insight.
Enhancement talents are pretty much inarguable at level 80.
I would use this for 85: http://wowtal.com/#k=f1ADo0lY1.a6d.shaman.3-upE-
^ Same thing with Nature's Guardian and Focused Insight, get Totemtic Reach or Totem Focus, it's up to you.
As for Cleansing Waters, I'm not so sure if it's really worth it, for PvP it definitely is, you'll be cleansing like a mad man, but for PvE, I'm not so sure how much there is to cleanse, and even if there's a lot, every healer can remove the same effects, so it's not really that crucial.
I haven't looked at the whole glyph situation yet, but in my level 85 spec, I included some glyphs, I don't know if that's how it works, it seems like an awful lot of glyphs, whilst writing this, I haven't played for 2 months, so I haven't experienced the new patch.
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Re: Resto 4.0.1
- Rimmon
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I read that Telluric Currents in the current (haha) form is not balanced the way they want it.
It's suposed to be a support dps talent and result in only a minor loss of mana, not a gain like it is now. Can't confirm this with a blue right now but I will once I find it again.
It's suposed to be a support dps talent and result in only a minor loss of mana, not a gain like it is now. Can't confirm this with a blue right now but I will once I find it again.
Re: Resto 4.0.1
- Evita
- Posts: 9
- Location: Denmark.
After resent events, I'm not so sure about the future, on live right now, I'm getting amazing results from Healing Surge, it crit heals for as much as Greater Healing Wave, and it's lightning fast, my Chain Heal on the other hand, it seems really nerfed, the initial hit is like 4k~, and it hardly ever jumps to other players, and if it does, it's just an effy little heal. It applies a HoT now though, occasionally, I don't know if that's supposed to make up for the lost healing...
If this remains unchanged in Cataclysm, it would seem that the era of Chain Heal spam is over, and we're back to single target being the best.
For stats, I'm not sure either, spec is surden, but gems and gear is the question, you probably want to make sure that you have more than enough spirit, I oom rather quickly in full ICC25 gear, with Lunar Dust and Solace.
I'm using the Chain Heal glyph cause no other is available, but I doubt the 10% reduction on main target is the main reason it's so terrible, and you can't even feel the 15% extra on next targets, it doesn't heal nearly as much as it used to anymore.
Thoughts?
Edit: I specced into Focused Insight, apparently it doesn't work with Wind Shear, which was initially what I wanted it for, since I'm a very active dungeon shocker, and would like to see it in action.
Disappointment disappointment.
If this remains unchanged in Cataclysm, it would seem that the era of Chain Heal spam is over, and we're back to single target being the best.
For stats, I'm not sure either, spec is surden, but gems and gear is the question, you probably want to make sure that you have more than enough spirit, I oom rather quickly in full ICC25 gear, with Lunar Dust and Solace.
I'm using the Chain Heal glyph cause no other is available, but I doubt the 10% reduction on main target is the main reason it's so terrible, and you can't even feel the 15% extra on next targets, it doesn't heal nearly as much as it used to anymore.
Thoughts?
Edit: I specced into Focused Insight, apparently it doesn't work with Wind Shear, which was initially what I wanted it for, since I'm a very active dungeon shocker, and would like to see it in action.
Disappointment disappointment.
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