Hello evryone, I have some questions for frost deathknights :)
First of all,
- What are the cap for a frost dk ? Like hit, expertise, is it something like 285 for hit and 27 expertise ? I don't remember ><
- What is the most important stat to up know for a frost dk ? Is it haste , or arp, or should I continu to up only my strenght and crit ?
- Do you know what are the BiS trinket for frost dk ? I've got the deathbringer will and the trinket of lady deathwhisper 10 man. Is the 60 frost marks trinket better ? Or even the trinket of Professor Putricide 25 man ?
Here's my armory, can you give me advice on what to change, because, even if my equipement sounds good, I don't think doing enought DPS whit it.
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... Frostevent
I was today at 10.1K on saufrang 10man but with the 25% buff.
Thank you for your advices , Frostevent
Questions for frost deathknights
Re: Questions for frost deathknights
- scaff666
- Posts: 12
Man from what've looked at your gear is so far good, the only mistake i saw is the 20hit gem, the hit cap for melee hit/special hits for frost is 185 due the talent "nerves of cold steel" that gives 3% hit rating while duel wielding, that's the only thing you need to change, the rest is good.
But the dps you said is kinda low for a 25% buff, with your gear i was doing 10 11k on saurfang fight with 10% buff, wich lead me to think that the problem is in your rotation and keeping UA up every 1 min + timing ghoul while you have most buffs active, can you describe what rotate you use? if the problem is not the rotate then i dunno what to think cause you should be doing at least 12k dps with this gear and the 25% buff.
Edit: i saw another gems with exp and hit, you should maybe take those away and use 20 str gems, and try to enchant your bracers with 15 exp i think it would be better then gemming.
Edit2: About the trinkets, i use DBW + DC, but i as soon as H WFS drop i will try DBW + H WFS to see if its better then DC or H DC, and the frost trinket is decent but DBW DC and WFS are way better.
But the dps you said is kinda low for a 25% buff, with your gear i was doing 10 11k on saurfang fight with 10% buff, wich lead me to think that the problem is in your rotation and keeping UA up every 1 min + timing ghoul while you have most buffs active, can you describe what rotate you use? if the problem is not the rotate then i dunno what to think cause you should be doing at least 12k dps with this gear and the 25% buff.
Edit: i saw another gems with exp and hit, you should maybe take those away and use 20 str gems, and try to enchant your bracers with 15 exp i think it would be better then gemming.
Edit2: About the trinkets, i use DBW + DC, but i as soon as H WFS drop i will try DBW + H WFS to see if its better then DC or H DC, and the frost trinket is decent but DBW DC and WFS are way better.
Re: Questions for frost deathknights
- Frostevent
- Posts: 3
Well, I always want to catch my caps, that the reason i put some hit gem or even expertise gem, I'm actually at 282 hit (that sound ok for me) and only 24/19 expertise , so I choosed to take some expertise gem, because if I get ride of those, I would go down to 21/16 , so it's not possible since the cap is at 26.
Well my rotation ?
I put my diseases, then I do blood strike x1 -> I use my spell to turn the blood rune into death one, and I use my proc, + my ingeniering proc (haste on gloves) and racial proc . After , I do annihilate x2 , then I refresh my diseases when I can with the special glyph, and I try to do annihilate as much as I can, and of course I do the frost stricke when I can.
Well is there any special things to know about frost dk ? Because I just recently took this spect, so I don't know much about it.
Sorry if I don't explain very well my rotation, It's just that I'm French.
[ French's football worldcup rox ]
Well my rotation ?
I put my diseases, then I do blood strike x1 -> I use my spell to turn the blood rune into death one, and I use my proc, + my ingeniering proc (haste on gloves) and racial proc . After , I do annihilate x2 , then I refresh my diseases when I can with the special glyph, and I try to do annihilate as much as I can, and of course I do the frost stricke when I can.
Well is there any special things to know about frost dk ? Because I just recently took this spect, so I don't know much about it.
Sorry if I don't explain very well my rotation, It's just that I'm French.
[ French's football worldcup rox ]
Re: Questions for frost deathknights
- Frostevent
- Posts: 3
Well, thank you for your help but tought I looted the BiS legs for unholy dk, the 277 one, I respect unholy last night :)
Thanks.
Thanks.
Re: Questions for frost deathknights
- scaff666
- Posts: 12
The Scourge reaver legs? from dreamwalker? they are BiS for frost too, hastes on high end gear gets better then Arp, at least from what i've tested, is better to have like 700ish Arp and 150 haste then 900 Arp and no haste at all, cause the more haste the more KM procs you will get and more dmg from melee too even with less Arp cause you will hit more times, and at least is what the sims show to me, that haste is scaling better on high end gear.
The big problem about frost is the moviment fights, unholy is much more flexible for those.
Well i noticed one mistake on your rotate, your opening should be: diseases, obliterate (anhillate as you said lol), blood strike and pestilence, for unbreakble armor you should use that when you just used your death runes for obliterate and all your runes are on CD, then you use blood tap and unbreakble armor, and use a cancel aura macro to cancel the blood tap aura so you dont mess with your runes, if you have any other question about frost just ask ^^.
(btw Brazil ftw! and bye bye france :P)
Edit: About the expertise i always forgot that armory does not show your off hand exp, so you should try to get some more Exp equips, take a look at my armory to see what equips you could use to get exp cap.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... e&cn=Thwor
The big problem about frost is the moviment fights, unholy is much more flexible for those.
Well i noticed one mistake on your rotate, your opening should be: diseases, obliterate (anhillate as you said lol), blood strike and pestilence, for unbreakble armor you should use that when you just used your death runes for obliterate and all your runes are on CD, then you use blood tap and unbreakble armor, and use a cancel aura macro to cancel the blood tap aura so you dont mess with your runes, if you have any other question about frost just ask ^^.
(btw Brazil ftw! and bye bye france :P)
Edit: About the expertise i always forgot that armory does not show your off hand exp, so you should try to get some more Exp equips, take a look at my armory to see what equips you could use to get exp cap.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... e&cn=Thwor
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