Death Knight discussion

[zYN]

Sorry for not really posting anything here for a while. I've been raiding a bit on my warlock (I just love the gameplay on it) in another guild working on LK25 HC.

I'll just edit this or post another post later tonight, answering some of the stuff people have been asking about.

[Darlen]

hey. why do you use rune of razorice on your mh and rune of the fallen crusader on the offhand? I tested this the last few raids and I fall of the crusader with rune ne about 15% higher uptime of the transverse processes and frost Vulnerability is about the same speed up.

sry 4 my bad englisch =o

[Dreddnacht]

Hi guys, congratz on the world first!

I was hoping you could explain briefly the importance / role / logic of the DK in 10 man heroic Lich King. I am the only DK in my 10 man group and we pretty much have the rest of Heroic ICC on farm (one shotting most all) and have just started working on H LK phase 1.

From just about everything I've seen or read, the 1st DK in the group should be Unholy, then if there are more they can (or maybe should) be Frost.

When we 1st started on Reg LK I was Unholy and the only melee, so the Shambler tank would taunt the ghouls I picked up from me and or the LK tank.

We've since picked up a Ret Pally and here's where the issues begin. We're 2 healing H LK and they say they can't heal us both from ghouls we pick up. So at first they had me stop pestilencing, their logic being that the pally can't not AoE. Now they've even had me go Frost with a single target non-AoE rotation to help with Melee haste even though there are only 2 melees in group.

So my question is basically, will this arrangement come back to bite us as we progress onto the other phases? Will it become a DPS issue seeing how most of our DPS are casters?

Thanks!

[Rox]

Hi and gz on the kill! (Hyvä suomi!)

I've been trying out different frost specs and rotations. I've been doing decent compared to my gear. I'm hit capped, not expertise capped yet and the usual, bla bla. I have on question tho. What presence do you use in frost dps? I've been trying out on dummies between unholy and blood, and for my surprise, i keep getting better results in unholy presence. Im doing around 5k on dummy in unholy and around 4k in blood. So i would like to hear your opinion about the presence issue.

Also, i've been having huge problems with threat dealing. Even one minute into a boss fight in ICC 10, and it may happen that i over aggro and get the boss on me. Is there some way i can lower my threat?

Thanks!

[devolutions]

What presence do you use in frost dps?

Blood should now always be used as it yields higher dps in the long run according to elitist jerks.

Subversion reduces threat also so drop black ice points and spec into that

[Oreø]

Hey congrats on the H LK Kill! I was shitting myself watching how epic that 3p video was and was suprised at the use of tanks (not because they are bad but haven't seen much druid mt'ing since Anub). Anyway does any of the dks in your guild tank or just dps as I had some questions as to threat rotations and specs. I currently use a heavy blood spec with shadows edge till I see a H Rama axe. My guild is just starting 25 LK normal and my gear isn't the best but here is an armory

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... =Ore%C3%B8

(ignore the offspec I got a Last Word mace off 25 PP to mess with for dw frost tank and I'm doing horrible with it)

If any of you could respond it would be great most forums don't cover dk tanks which is a bummer.

(ps I macro every move other than trinkets and dnd to runestrike to max threat spam)

Thanks and congrats again

[Zaan]

Hey there and gratz on yer 25 h kill.. was browsing through.. and just occured to me as i was wondering is TAJ the trinket of PP any good for a Frost DK.. say in order to replace DC if one is use a DC/DBW ... would be glad to know ur input.. thanks.

[Necross50]

Also fix up a Gnomish Battle Chicken and summon it before a fight. This is +5% melee haste for the whole party, it's a sick amount of DPS. I figure it doesn't hurt to share it at this point anymore.

I smell an april fool's joke.

[Stalfo]

Hey guys I had a question referring to hit. After looking and reading around sites like EJ suggested having around 11% hit (gain 3% from talents and another 3% from spriest) to get 16% for spells hitting. I noticed Liha has 5.73% hit and Synti has 9.06%. Right now I have 12.26% with one of those lame hit trinkets and without it I'm in the 8% range. Now I was curious how important it is to have that 11% hit or if they are perhaps wrong? I'd much rather substitute that trinket for another if I don't need all that hit.

Thanks for the look guys!

[Necross50]

Hey, as I got Bloodvenom Blade (277) for offspecc this thursday, I just HAD to try out frost. So far I like it, but I've been having trouble finding some info on stats.
Current priortizing is something like

Hit (until melee cap) > Str > hit (until spellcap, for GoD) > crit/haste/exp > arp > Agility

Amirite? Sorry for not finding an earlier post on this.