Hunter discussion

Re: Hunter discussion

Post 13 Apr 2010 17:49

Avatar Badkarma
 
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Kruf wrote:There's a few things about Val'kyrs and hunters. First of all, it is possible to use Disengage to get back to the platform after being dropped outside, but the timing is quite hard (in fact I wouldn't want to try relying on it without Levitate, and that's unreliable because there's damage from Infest etc) so since the dps requirement isn't totally insane you can just collapse to melee.


Well I am an engineer and have parachute cloak macro'd into my disengage. On one of our later LK wipes I was able to do this no problem, however the next time I ended up shooting myself further away. You get dropped facing the platform which I believe is the only challenge to ensure you get back up of you are engineer.

I will probably play around with this, hopefully I can get picked up in our normal attempts a bunch. I'm thinking if I just spam parachute cloak without disengage macro'd in, will give me a small amount of extra time to ensure I face myself the right direction.

Re: Hunter discussion

Post 14 Apr 2010 01:41

Avatar Grizz28
 
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Stingway wrote:
Kruf wrote:A quick guesstimate would say you'd do about the same if not slightly more with arpen gems, but you might want to check with a spreadsheet or simulationcraft (sorry, there's simply too many asking for help for me to do that for everyone these days).


I dont have a question this time, i just wanna say thanks to Kruf, and other hunters from Paragon for the help he/they is doing for ppl here.
Guys/girls try not to ask to many stupid questions, many of the things ppl are asking for, there are guides here or on google try first that before asking here.

Greetings, Stingway


thanks Stingway, I am glad I was the straw that broke the camels back of stupid questions. I dont think any question is stupid to begin with either.
I've googled plenty of inconclusive arp vs agility guides but i wanted to ask the opinion of a few of the best hunters out there.

I understand you dont have the time to give an in-depth analysis to every question Kruf, but thanks for taking the time to give me a quesstimate. I really do appriciate it.

Re: Hunter discussion

Post 14 Apr 2010 06:39

Avatar Sukotto
 
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Lady Deathwhisper 25M MM Hunter

Keep Viper or Serpent up on Lady Deathwhisper until her mana shield breaks?
I have been using both just because I go oom from trapping, and switching to adds.

Re: Hunter discussion

Post 14 Apr 2010 16:46

Avatar Glimli
 
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I would think it would be better to keep Viper up on the boss as it will keep your mana at full, and will still do "Damage" to the shield, however minuscule. That's just my personal opinion, however.

Re: Hunter discussion

Post 14 Apr 2010 22:14

Avatar hadgi
 
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Hello im wondering if you could help im pulling only 10k or so on valks and 7k on other bosses witch really dipresses me :( any suggestions. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... r&cn=Hadgi

Re: Hunter discussion

Post 15 Apr 2010 02:10

Avatar Grizz28
 
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hadgi wrote:Hello im wondering if you could help im pulling only 10k or so on valks and 7k on other bosses witch really dipresses me :( any suggestions. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... r&cn=Hadgi



If you replaced maybe your shoulders with the T9 ones that would help alot. The 2 piece bonus is a substantial amount of dps. In all honesty i'd farm the badges for all of the T9 pieces, the conquest badge neck and belt as well. You could get the 245 TOC bracers crafted as well.http://www.wowhead.com/item=47576

Dropping Herbalism for JC would probably help out a bit to.

Your spec looks alright, Rapid Recuperation isnt a bad talent to put at least 1 point into. Spending less time in Aspect of the Viper will always increase your DPS.

Re: Hunter discussion

Post 15 Apr 2010 07:13

Avatar eKYN
 
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Hello there!

Looked a bit into the DPS Spreadsheet. Shows ~9k DPS. I'm doing about 8,5k-~10k DPS (depends on fester 25man I was on 10k yesterday) on each boss in ICC with my gear atm. Imo it's kinda good gear I've recieved for only 3 played days in 80 so far.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... r&cn=Flovy

Rotation: I start off with Serpent sting > Chimera Shot > Aimed > 3x Steady Shots and repeate. And when I have to move > Arcane Shot and then start with Chimera shot after and etc.

I manage my CD's aswell. After I've used all my shot on the first rotation I start using rapid fire + berserking (troll) + cotw. I use a macro for this and all my shots. After that's done > readiness and so on.

The macro includes a auto shot before I do every shot. Expect on the arcane shot then.

So my Q is. I'm I doing good or bad? And was it a good or bad call to gem for the soft ArP cap + trinket procc?
Anything to change?. I'm still w8 to get some other loot ofc. Chest neck and back is my Prio atm to replace though.. I also got Greatness Card in my bag. My hit cap aint so good atm. It's just because of the Mark of Superancy but If I drop that I'm on 4 % Hit tho.. :P

P.S > I'm still working to get JC to max skill :)

Thanks for answeres!

Re: Hunter discussion

Post 15 Apr 2010 08:37

Avatar Kruf
 
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Why do you have 3/3 in Focused Aim when you're hitcapped purely from the gear alone? Even more so, why did you take the points out of Improved Steady Shot instead of Rapid Recuperation, you shouldn't be going oom that much anyway...

eKYN wrote:Rotation: I start off with Serpent sting > Chimera Shot > Aimed > 3x Steady Shots and repeate. And when I have to move > Arcane Shot and then start with Chimera shot after and etc.


I've probably said this about a million times, but any rotation where you count your Steady Shots instead of looking at the cooldowns of other abilities is just wrong, wrong, wrong.

eKYN wrote:The macro includes a auto shot before I do every shot.


Umm, why? This isn't TBC...

eKYN wrote:So my Q is. I'm I doing good or bad?


If you're doing about what the sheets say you should you're doing better than most of the people who come to ask for advice here...

eKYN wrote:And was it a good or bad call to gem for the soft ArP cap + trinket procc?


I'm too lazy to check with simulationcraft, and I've never had to even consider this whole NES-issue, so I don't know. Check for yourself, I suppose.

Re: Hunter discussion

Post 15 Apr 2010 08:50

Avatar Kruf
 
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hadgi wrote:Hello im wondering if you could help im pulling only 10k or so on valks and 7k on other bosses witch really dipresses me :( any suggestions. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... r&cn=Hadgi


Well honestly, what do you expect? You're mostly in Naxx/Ulduar gear, of course you're not going to do the same dps as the guys in best-in-slot gear from Icecrown Citadel. Go farm some badges for T9 and you'll see a major improvement.

Oh and while we're at it, fix that wolf spec to a proper raiding spec for some free dps increase.

Re: Hunter discussion

Post 15 Apr 2010 08:52

Avatar Kruf
 
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Sukotto wrote:Keep Viper or Serpent up on Lady Deathwhisper until her mana shield breaks?
I have been using both just because I go oom from trapping, and switching to adds.


Depends on if you want to top the meters or kill the boss. I generally throw Viper Sting in when switching away from the boss onto the adds to get some extra mana.