Hunter discussion

[Kruf]

Hello, I got a hunter, it's just my alt but he has about 5350 GS and about 50%Arp atm, and i'm planning on getting some 10-man ICC gear on him so maybe around 60-70% Arp soon(with Arp gems), should I go Survivel get Agility gems or stay MM?
Iv played both specc before so I know them well, just arp is bit confussing:)
I don't got time to play 25 mans on the hunter too so no Deathbringers will.

I don't quite get why you would gem arpen as MM if you can't get more than that, but whatever. You should always play as the spec that fits the raid setup better, especially in 10mans where it's hard to get full buff synergy going. Gemming agi is great since it works in both specs.

[Kruf]

i use zehara's analayzer and it toled me that Herkuml War Token is better then Needle-Encrusted Scorpion (atm i dident manege to get wfs or dbw)
i know frome day 1 that haste is worthless fo a hunter i dont know what i sopose to do shuled i equip it or not.

The passive stats on HWT are rather crappy, but the proc is very good since it has 100% uptime (given you're attacking something).

Also note that haste is not worthless by any means, it just isn't anywhere near as good as the other stats.

and recently i lernd how to stack up my pet procs with my wolf abilitis is there an addon that can autocast it when my DC procs?

Addons can't cast spells while in combat, thus no, there's no such addon and there will be no such addon.

[Kruf]

Hey,
I was just wondering when you should and shouldn't put serpent sting on a mob. If, for instance, it dies in 9 seconds is it still optimal to use a global for ss?
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... Numberfive
I have my 2 set t9 so i assume that will make a difference. Thanks =)

Ah, for once an interesting question. Let's do some math!

Using some old stats from Saurfang, I have these average damages for abilities:
Steady Shot: 5922
Chimera Shot - Serpent: 5320
Serpent Sting (tick): 987

We don't need to consider any other abilities, since you won't be trading off a high damage ability for a sting anyway.

Now, we can see that the extra damage on Chimera is nearly as much as the one Steady Shot lost (in fact we lose slightly less than one Steady, unless some haste effect is up), so it's always beneficial to apply the sting if you will have Chimera ready before the add dies and the sting can tick at least once.

[Kruf]

I've recently just got 60 bagde and i was thinking about to by the Haste/ap trinket from EoF. However i dont know wich trinket i shall use? I am having Greatness agility trinket+Verdict trinket (ICC 10, Lady normal) Should i buy the War Token trinket (Haste/ap) and wich should trinket should i replace it with?

Use a spreadsheet or simulationcraft to check out which trinket combo gives the best dps for your gear and spec. Or for the lazy, femaledwarf.

I am having 2 pieces of T10, Helm and Gloves, i also have the should but in item level 251, i recently got some new shoulders (264) wich isnt T10, i have the 264 shoulders on because of the better stats, should i go buy the Armor pieces and then have 4 pieces of T10 on? Or should i wait to i get legs from VoA 10/25 and then put my shoulders on and then hope for a Trophy soon?

T10 legs are trash. Really. Don't ever wear them or you'll be laughed at. Always wear either 2T9 or 4T10 setbonus - either setbonus is more dps than what little stats you gain going from ilevel 251 set piece to 264 non-set item.

Here is my armory link; http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Nagrand&cn=Fiskemanden
If you see anything else wrong are you welcome say :-)

Since you have 2/3 Focused Aim but are almost half a percent over the hitcap I'd suggest enchanting/gemming to 7% hit and taking 1/3 Focused Aim - you can use the free talent point for a dps increase somewhere else. Also consider speccing MM unless you need to be SV for raid synergy, I suspect MM would do more dps in that gear already (checking with a spreadsheet would probably be a good idea, though).

[DaarkSTorM]

Hi Kruf,

I would like if you can tell me a few hints/tweaks to improve my dps with my current gear/spec. I know I'm missing alot of good gear (I recently re-activated my account like 2 months ago, so I'm trying to catch up). I've haven't been able to do 25m stuffs so far but I'll be able to do it within the next weeks. Yesterday I've grabbed the T10.5 gloves from VoA25 and I'll be able to get the T10 chest from the frost badges and activate my 4 set bonus. Do you have any suggestion on which piece I should try to change first, if I should re-gems/enchants or anything else that can improve my dps.

Here is my armory link: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alleria&cn=Daarkstorm&gn=Argent+Templar

Thanks in advance.
(Sorry for any linguistic mistake, english isn't my primary language :)

[johntheg]

Hello, thanks for the reply :-)
I would also like to be MM, but my guildleader is telling me to be Full-time-survival :(
The thing is that im doing around 1k less dps with Survival, im also more familar with the MM spec :)

Thank you again for the reply, GJ on LK 25man HC btw! ;)

[Bambino6798]

Hey there kruf, ive been following paragon here for awhile now ever since they stepped into the spotlight as one of the (and currently) best guilds in WoW.

In terms of hunters ive always considered myself an above average player, ive always focused on the Min/Max factors to get the absolute most out of my character as possible. Recently my guild unlocked HM's (Only been a guild for a month as of yesterday) so im happy with our progression, but i know my #'s are low especially with the 10% dmg buff currently available in ICC. With that said i wanted to link my toon and a few of my more recent parses and see if you could give me any tips that im currently not doing or possibly thought was not a good idea at the time.

Pertinent links:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... cn=Bambino

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/wrpbec41ks306pr7/

I failed to rank on alot of these fights, which isn't what i use to judge how successful i am, but i do believe it can be used to show where i should be or where i can be if im better off managing my CD's etc.

That said sadly our raid comp does not include an arms warrior or feral druid, so the bleed debuff is absent, aside from that however all "Regular" buffs are present. I dont get ToTT or hysteria but these are generally better used for rogues/warriors so i dont complain much. Just curious if there is anything that sticks out that i could be doing better/should be doing.

As always much appreciated.

[Astrodancer]

Just wondering got like 60 Frost badges, got the Linked scourge vertebrae and no T10 items, should i get The leather belt vengeful noose or should i save up for some T10?

Here's my Armory link, don't have my own pc at the minute so i can't play.
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... strodancer

Thus i know i just got the Njordnar Bone Bow but had to leave urgently and could get arrows and put it on. And i know I dont have any really useful Proffs. but i don't have any money at the minute, i will get either JC and Ench or JC and BS or some other profs. Choose your favorites or best if u want :)
By the way i have yet never seen an hunter or even a dps with both DBW normal and Heroic is it even possible? Would it double the chance of the Proc? Or even have two of em at a time..?

Thanks on forward.

[Tiger]

Hi,
I have a question. I'm MM hunter and Arp have this rotation:

Serpent Sting

Chimera Shot
Aimed Shot
Steady Shot
Steady Shot
Steady Shot
Steady Shot
~ ~ Wait until Chimera Shot is available ~ ~
Chimera Shot
Aimed Shot
4x Steady Shot
~ ~ Wait until Chimera Shot is available ~ ~
Chimera Shot
Aimed Shot
4x Steady Shot
~ ~ Wait until Chimera Shot is available ~ ~
etc., etc. ..

Rich even for my values?

Arsenal Link: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... iga&cn=Tig % C3% A9r

[Kruf]

Hi,
I have a question. I'm MM hunter and Arp have this rotation:

Serpent Sting

Chimera Shot
Aimed Shot
Steady Shot
Steady Shot
Steady Shot
Steady Shot
~ ~ Wait until Chimera Shot is available ~ ~
Chimera Shot
Aimed Shot
4x Steady Shot
~ ~ Wait until Chimera Shot is available ~ ~
Chimera Shot
Aimed Shot
4x Steady Shot
~ ~ Wait until Chimera Shot is available ~ ~
etc., etc. ..

Rich even for my values?

No. You'll end up with a full second of idle in rotation when any haste proc/cooldown is up. There's no fixed rotation, please read the FAQ in the first post of this thread.