Death Knight discussion

GoD Rotation

Post 09 Mar 2010 02:22

Avatar sneakysob
 
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Is there any change with a GoD glyph as far as rotations go?

I just assume GoD takes place of one BS and you gain an extra scourge strike.

Edit: Also, why is 17/0/54 (or some variation) the best spec for arthas? I dont find myself using DnD very much on the fight, however I do use GoD for it.

Re: Yet another DPS DK question

Post 09 Mar 2010 12:06

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zYN wrote:Some other random questions I get asked: I don't use a set to stone rotation, well, ever. It's a strict priority system - so much changes in a lot fights. Especially in the ones that aren't completely facerolled. Keep your (buffed up) diseases up, keep smashing scourge strike, try not to overflow on RP too much. It's really as simple as that. I'll write about some finer points in some specific encounters at a later time.


Even so you must have some kind of opening to get everything up and a slight delay on TotT or somthing to get Desolation /Advantage(4T10sb) up then reset to re-apply PS/IT then get your TotT at this point? and keep rolling your beefed up diseases from then onwards. And after that whats your priority list on skills after this point, my gear isn't much off yours, and ive tried all sorts of rotations and priorities but im failing horribly ive done so much reading and research/sims since WotlK to get to know the class as best I can. Im not able atm but working on it trying to get a TotT at the start of each fight but who can blame the rogues with my sub-par dps atm! its very frustrating!

Ej isn't really the most friendly of places to post for assistance either, so any kind of help would be very very VERY! much appreciated.

Re: Yet another DPS DK question

Post 09 Mar 2010 15:33

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I'm pretty much never getting ToTT right away in the start of the fight. It wouldn't make much sense anyway holding it back.

Usually, I open with PS+IT (+grenade), 2x BS, SS and from there on out it depends on the fight completely.

If there's going to be Bloodlust right at the start, I quite often use hyperspeed accelerators and blood fury with my trinket procs. This is also the time when I'm going to pop my gargoyle. Next part depends on if I'm getting the #2 ToTT from rogues or not. If I am, I wait with re-applying diseases until I get ToTT. Depending on the fight, ie if there's no burst needed or no significant +%dmg gained, I also often use ERW if I have good enough procs/ToTT up.

If I'm not getting ToTT at all, I try and re-apply the buffed up (procs, advantage+desolate) diseases as quickly as possible.


Probably missed something, but can't right now remember what exactly.

Re: Yet another DPS DK question

Post 09 Mar 2010 15:55

Avatar DKcrying for Help!
 
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Thanks alot thats been a big help!

Re: Yet another DPS DK question

Post 10 Mar 2010 02:01

Avatar Dumbledizzle
 
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Hey synti,

bit off topic but do you know if necrotic plague is affected by the 30% disease bonus from crypt fever and do you think its viable speccing into chillblains to slow the vile spirits? I appreciate your help.

Re: Yet another DPS DK question

Post 10 Mar 2010 09:04

User avatarzYN
 
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Dumbledizzle wrote:do you know if necrotic plague is affected by the 30% disease bonus from crypt fever and do you think its viable speccing into chillblains to slow the vile spirits?

No. But spelldamage taken (ebon plague) boosts the damage. And yes, chillblains is easily one of the better slows on the spirits.

Re: GoD Rotation

Post 10 Mar 2010 20:36

User avatarzYN
 
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Going to merge these threads in a moment and add all of these under the main DK thread. I'll answer (or throw my opinion/recommendation) this kind of stuff at that point, then.

Re: Blood Tap Usage (DK Question)

Post 15 Mar 2010 12:56

Avatar Epinephrine
 
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Still waitin! :P

Re: Death Knight discussion

Post 15 Mar 2010 21:21

Avatar Dumbledizzle
 
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Hey Synti,

You still going frost for 3.3.3 even now that pets are scaling with the ICC buff? Thanks for the help.

Re: GoD Rotation

Post 16 Mar 2010 15:39

User avatarzYN
 
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sneakysob wrote:Is there any change with a GoD glyph as far as rotations go?

I just assume GoD takes place of one BS and you gain an extra scourge strike.


Pretty much no, there isn't. Just sub a BS for one Pestilence.

Epinephrine wrote:This is an issue that's been bugging me alot lately,
so how do you think i should use Blood Tap as Unholy for maximum DPS gain? it just messes my rotation most of the times, but i guess im doin something wrong.

I'm not using Blood Tap efficiently enough at all personally. It gets used in the high movement or add fights (LK etc) plenty, but in standstill I'm, to be honest, ignoring it most of the time. Optimal point to use it in at would be after BS+Pestilence I suppose. I'll have to try and use it more myself in the upcoming reset, I'll post then to see how it went.
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