A question to Paragon about Ulduar vs Firelands

[Towelie]

Do you think the hardmodes in ulduar were harder than the hardmodes in firelands? I want to compare the first content patch in Wotlk to the first content patch in cata. The hardmodes in ulduar seem to have taken longer, yogg0 for example, whereas the hardmodes in firelands were downed faster. What would you say was the hardest raid overall?

[Hermanni]

T11

[Towelie]

T11

yogg0 3 months
Whole of firelands 1 month

=Ulduar harder ?

[arx]

You have to take into account that we weren't seriously trying Yogg0 until a few days before Stars killed it. I think it took 156 pulls, give or take, but the gearing (and alt) situation was very different. So comparing it to something like Ragnaros is far from a simple issue, and can only really be done subjectively by people who had high-ranking kills of both bosses.

PS. T11 = Cata launch. Incidentally, Ulduar without Yogg0 took about the same time as T11 progression.