My Feral dps

[Tonkis]

Hello Paragon! just have some question that i wonder if you could help me with. I am currently playing feral dps at this moment with my current gear/encahnts and gemming i pop around 13-14k dps, armory link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/t ... kis/simple

but i have the feeling i should pop more dps, since we got a MM hunter in my guild poping 22-33k dps, i know they have always topped the dps but this much?

My rotation is opening, FF, Ravage (if i can), mangle rake and shred, then i should be at 5 combo points and doing Rip, then shred spam and redo rake when nearly going of then SR, keeping the mangle buff up, same with Rip and SR, and FB when i get the chance to.

and im wondering, is there anything i can do at this very moment to improve my dps, even by little to hunt the hunters dps :D

Thanks if your reading this /Tonkis

[Xodan]

Hmm, while Feral is not doing so hot at the moment, I'd say your dps still does seem a bit on the low side considering your gear. You should be able to do around 17-18k with that gear in good stand still fights (Chimaeron / T&V). Talents & glyphs seem to be in order. Gear seems to be ok, apart from following points: change 20agi/20hit gem to helm to grab that 30agi socket bonus, 40agi gem to relic and obviously ring enchants once you get 500 ench, but I guess that is in the works. All in all fairly minor points.

Also after the patch haste might be a bit better than crit with certain gear levels, so you might want to check it by running your numbers through Mew's feral simulator: http://sites.google.com/site/yawninglol/webmewpivot. You can approximate your DPS with it too. I find it fairly accurate: at best day you can pull about 5% less dps than the simulation shows, taking in effect fight mechanics (no really good patchwerk fights in this tier, Chimaeron / T&V are closest, Argaroth is way too short) and human error. Quite many fights in this tier favor ranged, so hunters might not be the best gauge for it. It's best to compare yourself to other melee. On single target Ferals are maybe 10% behind rogues or so and maybe 5% behind warriors/retris in single target fights. AoE fights are of course abysmal for Ferals as our AoE has remained pretty much at ICC level...and that was 5 levels/100 ilevels ago.

Here is a couple general pointers for improving your dps, since you already got the "rotation" under control.
a) Like you said, keep mangle, rake, rip and SR up at all times.
b) After the patch FB really lost ground to Shred and now it's usually just best to keep Shredding and keep combos up for Rip/SR. FB should be used only at <25%.
c) Always use Agi Flask/Food and pre-potion before the fight starts and a second potion when Berserk is ready the second time, these are pretty substantial DPS upgrades.
d) Remember to use TF always when the CD is ready, TF uptime might be the single biggest factor in your dps once you have the standard "rotation" in line.
e) Make sure all melee buffs are available on your raid and if not bitch to the RL until they are. Mostly a problem if you run a 10man group. Something like +4% phys damage debuff can be easily missed, Feral really needs all buffs before they "shine".

Hope this helps a bit.

[Tonkis]

yeah thanks alot, gonna work on this matter now, saw you mentioned FB only under 25%, becuse its useless unless you can redo rip with FB? in that case wont i have useless combo points throu out the fight? :P and isent hit kinda useless for feral dps at this point?

[Xodan]

Yeah, FB is only ment to be used at sub 25% to refresh Rip. Shred got a so big buff last patch that it is basicly as good as FB. I suspect it might change in some upcoming patch. Hit and exp are the worst ratings for ferals, but not useless per se. Of course they are always reforged to mastery or crit/haste.

[Garlirn]

I got in late on this discussion.. but i think it would also help that if you are hit capped to glyph for SR instead of TF because that extra 5% melee damage you would do would also help your dps i believe.

[Xique]

@xodan: what do you do if your rip/sr is on the Target very
Long and you have 5 cps?

With 4.1 feral got nerfed. Swipe dmg increased by 100% is very well. Do you think feral is now One of the Best aoe clases ?