10/25 heroic difficulty

[Tass]

Hello everybody.
I know this has been discussed over and over since the cataclysm release, and if some mod feels that this one is too much, feel free to moderate.

I'm actually only raiding in 10m version so i have absolutely no clue about 25m difficulty.
I read a lot of things on the web about it, but there was not a topic that gave me informations I found reliable.

I'm quite aware of the complications a 25m raid implies :
-More people to gather so less raiding time compared to 10
-More people to fail on various boss comp
-Less place for spread strategy boss

But there are also some advantages I rarely see pointed out :
-A more easely full buff raid (wich is still hard or not possible in 10 mode for some setup)
-more people also means that if you dedicate someone to a specific job (like parasite kiting on magmaw H) it penalizes your raid much less than in 10 mode (1 dps out of 17 is less detrimental than 1 out of 5) and that goes for others hm as well (like halfus or chimaeron, the others I don't wanna talk about since I didn't try them out yet). This last point is a big drawback imo that is not much discussed.

There are also elements on wich i don t have precise informations :
-The difference about boss 25/10 damage output, but i reckon it's more profitable for 10m
-The HP of the boss in 25/10, taking halfus HM as an example (it's not the best example but it's only to make a point), we have a ration of the ratio is about 3.6 (halfus has 3.6 time more hp in 25 than in 10) wich seems pretty accurate because the number of dps 25/10 ratio is 3.2 (counting a tank as 0.5 dps, event if it varies a lot with vengeance now) and the buff composition plus synergy should fill the gap.


All these factors can't be correctly be taken into account correctly with WoL stats (because the majority of casual guild goes for 10m, and that will **** up any analysis you would do^^).


So here is what i'm asking :
-Did you personnaly tried some heroic encounter in 10m that you found harder or easier than 25 mode (i'm especially interested with bosses that haven't been defeated in 10m yet)? Would you say that it totally depends on the fights? Or 10m just felt easier whatever the fight?

I'm asking that too you because i really believe that very fex guilds can answer that question properly at the moment.


PS : I'm sorry if there's a lot of mistakes, i'm not as familiar with english as I should be.

[xenophics]

Hi,

A quick answer: haven't done any 10-man heroics yet. I might write a longer answer later when we are not raiding (and when we've actually done some 10-man raids).

[Tass]

Erf
Thanks for the quick answer anyway^^

I'm starting to think that nobody is able to give an argumented answer atm.
I'll be visiting the forum daily, waiting for that longer answer

[zYN]

As soon as we get the 10-man heroics done (probably some time after we've cleared all of 25-man heroic raids), I'll be writing a rather lengthy article about it.