Warlock discussion

Re: Warlock discussion

Post 31 May 2010 00:41

Avatar gnarwhale01
 
Posts: 9
Hey guys, I just leveled Engineering and was curious whether i should use the Tailoring cloak enchant or the Engineering cloak enchant?
Or should I drop Tailoring for something else?
Thanks.

Re: Warlock discussion

Post 01 Jun 2010 09:21

Avatar Chamz
 
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Hey just had a few questions regarding affliction i was hoping to get a answear to. First of im wondering about the opener, should i start out with a pre pot and NIC trinket or should i wait for a 4piece proc and then pop NIC and reaply corruption?
Also since i resently switched to engineering i noticed that my Hyperspeed glove enchant gets a little cd added to it when i use NIC so would it be better to swap NIC out for HC spyglass and use Phylactery as my second trinket?

And one question regarding the Life Tap glyph, should i refresh the buff it gives if it falls off say in the middle of a DM or Eradication proc or should i wait until the proc ends? If Bloodlust comes at the start of the fight is it better to use a Wild Magic pot then or to wait until the boss goes under 25% and pop a speed pot asuming you dont have the pre pot cd up? Lastly when it comes to refreshing corruption under 35%, how long is it worth waiting for a 4piece proc befor doing so?

Thanks for your time and sorry about the wall:)

Re: Warlock discussion

Post 09 Jun 2010 23:30

Avatar Marchen
 
Posts: 4
Location: Brazil
Hello,

I have two questions for Jubeto...

1st - Why you use Life Tap instead of Dark Pact? Isn't Dark Pact better after 3xxx spellpower unbuffed?

2nd - Do you (in a perferct fight) cast corruption 3x? First one when fight start, second when you get a tier 10 proc and third when boss <35% hp and tier 10 procc'ed?

Thanks in advance :)

Re: Warlock discussion

Post 10 Jun 2010 10:20

User avatarJubeto
 
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1) Personal preference, I used to play with DP when you had to be in 30 yd range with your pet in order to use DP and imo it sucked ass. I haven't speced back since then because I don't have any issues with mana as most of the ICC fights require some movement and there is plenty of time to LT while moving. With LT spec I don't have to track my pet's mana or have 2 LOL I WNAT MANAS -buttons for both LT and DP (if the pet is oom, DP gives 0 mana).

You might think that you save 1 talent point when you spec to DP, but where are you going to put that talent? Drain Soul, threat is never an issue in 25 man raid unless your rogues and hunters have some serious l2p issues. Fel Concentration might provide a minor dps gain in some fight which has a lot of pushbacks, but I don't honestly remember any except LK's pain and suffering and Blood queens megabolts.

I was DP speced when we got the LK firstkill, but because of the 30 yd range I speced back to LT because the content is under farm and 1 little pushback talent isn't going to change anything. I have recently thought about specing back to DP since the range has been changed but we'll see.

2) Pretty much yes, if you happen to have t10 proc active while you have to move, feel free to apply a new corr. I don't know if someone has made some massive corr t10 proc sub 35% math, but I've come to conclusion that reapplying corr is better dps if the boss lives longer than 30 seconds roughly. If you can find some theorycrafting/discussion about this, feel free to post a link.

TBH I've never given this a much thought because I've usually been able to cast a corr with t10 proc at 35-30% and then it surely is better dps. Or I've had to move while I've had t10 proc.

Goddamn, this fissure skill is inaccurate.

Re: Warlock discussion

Post 10 Jun 2010 14:20

User avatarJubeto
 
Posts: 155
Chamz wrote: i wait for a 4piece proc and then pop NIC and reaply corruption?


That is the way to do it

Chamz wrote:Also since i resently switched to engineering i noticed that my Hyperspeed glove enchant gets a little cd added to it when i use NIC so would it be better to swap NIC out for HC spyglass and use Phylactery as my second trinket?


No, you use glove enchant for the first time after you have NIC corr rolling on the target.

Chamz wrote:And one question regarding the Life Tap glyph, should i refresh the buff it gives if it falls off say in the middle of a DM or Eradication proc or should i wait until the proc ends?)


Wait for the proc to end. If you have to move, feel free to life tap unless you can do something else like shadowflame or dot instants to some add.

Chamz wrote: If Bloodlust comes at the start of the fight is it better to use a Wild Magic pot then or to wait until the boss goes under 25% and pop a speed pot asuming you dont have the pre pot cd up?


You should prepot before a fight, next pot you can take is ready after 1 min. In the case you described you should take a speed pot after 25%. however if you lust 1 min after the fight, you should use a wild magic pot during lust.

Goddamn, this fissure skill is inaccurate.

Re: Warlock discussion

Post 14 Jun 2010 21:01

Avatar immortalone
 
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Hey there, my question is aimed at diivil.

guild is currently working on Lk25mhc, (ive killed 10), but im constantly getting compared to our aff locks valkryie damage on p2, and i have to admit mine can be pretty shocking but i just cant see how i can get it going any better, basically if the postion is good im just spamming soc like a nut case, when the front gets to the 60 ish percent mark then ill go onto single target either using shadow bolt or molten core if its up, but its still not enough to get any where near the affi lock.

Is it just the fact that hes soc is hitting roughly 7% harder then mine what with hes [Improved Corruption] and [Contagion]? or am i doing something wrong?

The affliction lock is better geared then me but not alot, somebody reccommend using meta for the immolation aura extra damage but seems like a bad idea to me cause not only would that mean id have to not use it all the way thru the transition phase (i use it at begging with hero and transition phase to get the adds down quicker) but also a extra person in meele to get defile so i dont think thats such a good idea.

help!


Additional : Can i ask you as to why youve chose your choice of trinkets? Isnt Spylgass BIS untill you can replace it with the combination of (h) DFO and (h) phlac?
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Re: Warlock discussion

Post 15 Jun 2010 07:08

Avatar shiekrahn
 
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this is for diivil. im actually from the realm gul'dan but i've been told that paragon is the best guild and you seem like you know A LOT about locks so i have a question. I'm a demo lock and my gearscore is 5963 and im only pushing about 7k-8k dps in 25icc. I know thats not where i should be and i know i should be doing more than that but i have no idea wat to do anymore. I've tried fixing my rotation but it hasn't helped. I'm using glyph of life tap glyph of felguard, and glyph of quick decay and my stats are 3878 spellpower, 342 hit, 44% crit, and 1013 haste. Wat do u suggest i do and any advice would be greatly appreciate it.

Re: Warlock discussion

Post 18 Jun 2010 20:37

Avatar NotAHax
 
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My frend will start playing wlock and i would ask few questions about wlocks.

Is there some good addons for wlocks what he should get?

What is Affliction warlock rotation? Is affliction best spec for single target dps atm?

What kind of gems he should get for affliction? spellpower + haste mostly?

Best Regards, NotAHax

Re: Warlock discussion

Post 20 Jun 2010 22:01

Avatar Cursedsoul
 
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NotAHax wrote:My frend will start playing wlock and i would ask few questions about wlocks.

Is there some good addons for wlocks what he should get?

What is Affliction warlock rotation? Is affliction best spec for single target dps atm?

What kind of gems he should get for affliction? spellpower + haste mostly?

Best Regards, NotAHax


Tell your friend to look here --> http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t37900-dots ... ck_thread/


These guys are doing a great service to the warlock community by answering our questions, so I would only ask a question if you have at least the bare minimum knowledge about this class.

Re: Warlock discussion

Post 25 Jun 2010 03:14

Avatar gnarwhale01
 
Posts: 9
So I read somewhere that once you hit around 3.3k SP as aff you want to start using Reckless Ametrine in red AND yellow sockets since theyre as valuable as Runed Cardinal at this point.
I just got my new chestpiece and wanted some clarification on this.
armory: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... obophiliac

(Sorry for some of my wierd gear, got hacked the other day)

thanks.
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