Thanks for the input Iiris. Kindof misunderstood your yellow socket advice and when i went to double check on your armory i realized my mistake =P Either way it semi worked out for me as i regemmed my gear.
I am a tad lazie when it comes to switching seals. Besides trash do you find Seal of Command useful on anithing else? Since without corruption glyph you'd loose a lot of exp for bosses.
Paladin discussion
Re: Warrior and Paladin help!
- chunjehgrl
- Posts: 3
Re: Warrior and Paladin help!
- Iiris
- Posts: 118
I use SoCommand at Lady Deathwhisper when adds come but you gotta watch out so you dont cleave your mindcontrolled friends down =), other places to use it are Lich King valkyr phase, Gunship and Valithria.
Re: Warrior and Paladin help!
- chunjehgrl
- Posts: 3
Ahh yes! Brainfart there for a min. I guess that means i cant be lazie animore eh? haha
Also if there are ani warriors out there that can help me! I will give u many cookies
Also if there are ani warriors out there that can help me! I will give u many cookies
paladin discussion
- dwarfy
- Posts: 2
Hello Iiris , since my guild is only a 10man icc raiding guild and my highest dps so far without hero is 7k+ , is there anything wrong with my gear , gems ? Would be happy if u help.
Thanks:)
Gear link ---) http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... =Gooddwarf
Thanks:)
Gear link ---) http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... =Gooddwarf
Re: Paladin discussion
- itzduce
- Posts: 1
hey i was wondering..i have an effective mana cd rotation..but on some fights where you cant even blink off of tanks ( blood prince for example ) it seems even when using my plea, torrent, and divine illu like i have in otherfights, its hard for me to stop from going oom and providing a wipe >.< is it possible that you could share maybe the way you found to use all your cds the most effictively and for your reference, heres what i do
95% mana - pop arcane torrent, puts me back at 100%
85% mana-use plea with no trinket/wings (if harder hitting fight id use with trinket) i go back up between 95 and 100% mana depending on the amount of healing i had to do during duration
75% mana- divine plea
after that i keep torrent and plea + trinket /wings
your thoughts on how i could improve this?
95% mana - pop arcane torrent, puts me back at 100%
85% mana-use plea with no trinket/wings (if harder hitting fight id use with trinket) i go back up between 95 and 100% mana depending on the amount of healing i had to do during duration
75% mana- divine plea
after that i keep torrent and plea + trinket /wings
your thoughts on how i could improve this?
Re: Paladin discussion
- Jarett
- Posts: 3
This posts for Iiris. :D
Well I recently I had someone give me some advice on some of my gear and just comming here to ask a few questions.
Armory - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... =Scepticle (Chest isn't enchanted or gemed yet)
First question I have is Consencration Glyph > Exorcism?
So your glyphs should be SOV, Judgements, and Consencration?
2ndly -
This person told me to gem for socket bonuses. Meaning in my chest I would put 2x 10str/10crit and 1 10str/15stam. I know stam is pretty much useless and we get enough from our gear. Also I lose strength doing that even though I gain crit. So am I right or is that person?
Right now my rotation is FCFS like any paladin. But I open up with
JOW > DS > CS > Cons > Ex > FCFS after, and I always hit DS when my 2pc procs. Is this right?
Also I noticed I have been running out of mana when I use consencration on Bosses, even if I do sometimes keep DP up. Is this somewhat normal? Or is there anything to stop this?
Well I recently I had someone give me some advice on some of my gear and just comming here to ask a few questions.
Armory - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... =Scepticle (Chest isn't enchanted or gemed yet)
First question I have is Consencration Glyph > Exorcism?
So your glyphs should be SOV, Judgements, and Consencration?
2ndly -
This person told me to gem for socket bonuses. Meaning in my chest I would put 2x 10str/10crit and 1 10str/15stam. I know stam is pretty much useless and we get enough from our gear. Also I lose strength doing that even though I gain crit. So am I right or is that person?
Right now my rotation is FCFS like any paladin. But I open up with
JOW > DS > CS > Cons > Ex > FCFS after, and I always hit DS when my 2pc procs. Is this right?
Also I noticed I have been running out of mana when I use consencration on Bosses, even if I do sometimes keep DP up. Is this somewhat normal? Or is there anything to stop this?
Re: Question for the Holy Pallys
- holyfutz
- Posts: 1
I had another question for diamondtear.
I've noticed your using more and more MP5 items and the MP5 helm and shoulder enchants. Is there any particular reason behind that? Are you seeing any difference in your mana regen as far as not having to use DP as much?
Also, why do you use the meteorite crystal over the talisman of resurgence? Have you found your not needing the on-use sp for your 3rd DP?
And my final question, 4pT10 is it as bad as I think it is? Seems like using HS a lot is bad and the cast reduction doesn't do much when you have a ton of haste.
Thanks again for your time.
I've noticed your using more and more MP5 items and the MP5 helm and shoulder enchants. Is there any particular reason behind that? Are you seeing any difference in your mana regen as far as not having to use DP as much?
Also, why do you use the meteorite crystal over the talisman of resurgence? Have you found your not needing the on-use sp for your 3rd DP?
And my final question, 4pT10 is it as bad as I think it is? Seems like using HS a lot is bad and the cast reduction doesn't do much when you have a ton of haste.
Thanks again for your time.
Re: Paladin discussion
- Iiris
- Posts: 118
@dwarfy
There are couple of things I would like to point out in your gear, you are using 10str15sta as blue gem, use Nightmare Tear ( 10 all stats) and you have 27 expertise without SoV glyph so you should try to get some of those expertise gear swapped to get SoV glyph in full use, try to aim 26~ expertise with the glyph, Exo glyph aint that good, you are also using Glyph of Holy Wrath? I dont know if there is some sensible reason behind this but you should swap that to Consecration, Consecration is great glyph which everyone should use (I have described this in my previous posts).
@Jarett
1. Yes, use Consecration glyph over Exorcism, check my older posts to get more clarified information.
2. No, you shouldnt always gem for socket bonuses. If you gain 4+ strength from socket bonus gem it with 10str/10crit otherwise full 20str. You shouldnt use 10str15sta gems, use one Nightmare Tear (10 all stats) to get your blue gem req.
3. Your FCFS priority is fine and you should always hit DS except when Judgement is off cooldown =).
4. Going oom nowadays is pretty usual if you dont have all the manaregen buffs in raid, arcane intellect, blessing of wisdom and so on. Only things to stop this is try to use DP as soon as you can (when you have free global) and if you see you are going to oom hard just stop using consecration and exo for a second or pop mana potion if you havent used haste pot already.
There are couple of things I would like to point out in your gear, you are using 10str15sta as blue gem, use Nightmare Tear ( 10 all stats) and you have 27 expertise without SoV glyph so you should try to get some of those expertise gear swapped to get SoV glyph in full use, try to aim 26~ expertise with the glyph, Exo glyph aint that good, you are also using Glyph of Holy Wrath? I dont know if there is some sensible reason behind this but you should swap that to Consecration, Consecration is great glyph which everyone should use (I have described this in my previous posts).
@Jarett
1. Yes, use Consecration glyph over Exorcism, check my older posts to get more clarified information.
2. No, you shouldnt always gem for socket bonuses. If you gain 4+ strength from socket bonus gem it with 10str/10crit otherwise full 20str. You shouldnt use 10str15sta gems, use one Nightmare Tear (10 all stats) to get your blue gem req.
3. Your FCFS priority is fine and you should always hit DS except when Judgement is off cooldown =).
4. Going oom nowadays is pretty usual if you dont have all the manaregen buffs in raid, arcane intellect, blessing of wisdom and so on. Only things to stop this is try to use DP as soon as you can (when you have free global) and if you see you are going to oom hard just stop using consecration and exo for a second or pop mana potion if you havent used haste pot already.
Re: Question for the Holy Pallys
- DiamondTear
- Posts: 317
holyfutz wrote:I had another question for diamondtear.
I've noticed your using more and more MP5 items and the MP5 helm and shoulder enchants. Is there any particular reason behind that? Are you seeing any difference in your mana regen as far as not having to use DP as much?
Also, why do you use the meteorite crystal over the talisman of resurgence? Have you found your not needing the on-use sp for your 3rd DP?
And my final question, 4pT10 is it as bad as I think it is? Seems like using HS a lot is bad and the cast reduction doesn't do much when you have a ton of haste.
Thanks again for your time.
You can't notice the difference in mana regen, but thanks to MATH you know it's there.
You don't need the SP for your 3rd DP.
4pT10 is pretty poor.
Last edited by DiamondTear on 19 Mar 2010 10:19, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Paladin discussion
- David
- Posts: 14
@Iiris since I guess you're the only RET. Three things have been troubling me and I'm not sure how to solve this issue so I thought I'd as for a bit of help.
Armory: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... t&cn=Daoud
Latest WWS: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/32gy ... 622&e=3880
1) Based on my current armory my AP seems quite low compared to other rets at my gear level. I was looking at WFS and from my theory it seems to have a 33% uptime as far as proc. Now compared to my greatness which has a static 207 AP, as well as 33% uptime on proc it would seem that greatness is better in my gear situation. Rawr, and Spreadsheet says otherwise however just wanted to see your thoughts on this.
2) My effective CDs. I've tried everything, CLCRET (Which I highly disapprove of), AHK+Snowfall Keypress list goes on. I only get 80 MS in raids as well as 15-20 fps in fights which shouldn't hinder my ability to press a key in time for the next GCD. Something still doesn't seem right. Any ideas?
3) I have the legs from Dreamwalker ( Scourge Reaver's Legplates ), however this will put me 3 exp under the cap but giving me haste, ap, more crit. Is this a loss or a gain. Rawr is only showing a 3-5 dps gain however that seems far from off.
I know this is a bit "hand holdy", however I've honestly tried my best to figure out what seems to be the issue here.
Thank you.
Armory: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... t&cn=Daoud
Latest WWS: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/32gy ... 622&e=3880
1) Based on my current armory my AP seems quite low compared to other rets at my gear level. I was looking at WFS and from my theory it seems to have a 33% uptime as far as proc. Now compared to my greatness which has a static 207 AP, as well as 33% uptime on proc it would seem that greatness is better in my gear situation. Rawr, and Spreadsheet says otherwise however just wanted to see your thoughts on this.
2) My effective CDs. I've tried everything, CLCRET (Which I highly disapprove of), AHK+Snowfall Keypress list goes on. I only get 80 MS in raids as well as 15-20 fps in fights which shouldn't hinder my ability to press a key in time for the next GCD. Something still doesn't seem right. Any ideas?
3) I have the legs from Dreamwalker ( Scourge Reaver's Legplates ), however this will put me 3 exp under the cap but giving me haste, ap, more crit. Is this a loss or a gain. Rawr is only showing a 3-5 dps gain however that seems far from off.
I know this is a bit "hand holdy", however I've honestly tried my best to figure out what seems to be the issue here.
Thank you.