Paladin discussion

[Paladig]

hello, i got a problem when i am tanking, dont know why.

my threat is not that good, usually my tps is like 6-8k, when im tanking the boss.

Always got HS up and AS on CD, then the basic rotaction, HoTR, ShR, judgement, cons. got glyphs: glyph of avenging shileld, glyph of judgement and devine plea.

Any tips to higher my threat?

[Kinichi]

This is my armory, I don't think i'm doing to much wrong but just to make sure, and another thing if you don't mind explaining....What is the difference between the engineering upgrades and blacksmithing? plus what leather items and things should i go for over plate i have a general idea but you guys might explain it better.

[Valadath]

Hello there =/
Im playing as a holy paladin in my current guild (Secrets in Thaurssian - US) and i have some quick question to ask

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... n=Valadath

First of all,I have Talisman of Resurgence,Solace of the Fallen and Meteorite Crystal, I know that Solace of the Fallen come as the BiS trinket, but I can't pretty manage my mana with Solace + Meteorite Crystal
Is there any tips or tricks to improve the situation above?

2nd Question, I saw Diamondtear's Haste is around 924, Is it ok to way above it? Like hittting 1,000? or shall I focus more on mp5 + crits instead of haste?

3rd, How do Paragon judge which Holydin performance? Raid awareness or?

*English isn't my main language, It might sounds broken... Sorry about it*
Your kind help will be appreciated, and thanks in advance
-Valadath

[Krallis]

unluckily u log out with your retri spec and equip so I couldn't know your situation, that's my situation http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... cn=Krallis my biggest problem is the trinket but i'm finally near to take meteorite crystal.

with my gear I haven't the problem to go oom so my first question is do you use divine plea?
If u use it I don't understand how could you go oom, generally i use the first divine plea with Avening Wrath when i reach 30k mana. the second with Divine Illumination and if I need a third and Avening Wrath is on CD i use the Talisman of Resourgence with divine plea, if Avening Wrath is avaible I use it and leave the trinket for harder situations.

That's my answer to your first question, hope it could help ^^

for the other questions I'm not Diamondtear I can't answer xD


PS: oom = out of mana

[Antipaladin]

Hi
so my guild is having problems with downing put 25 man, and im a retr and usually top 6 but on this fight im more like 9-12 and i read previous posts about keeping up stacks on put... i was wondering about seal switching on the green oozes as we use a zerg strat...
and heres my armory http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... ntipaladin

-Antipaladin
Ner'zhul

[DiamondTear]

First of all,I have Talisman of Resurgence,Solace of the Fallen and Meteorite Crystal, I know that Solace of the Fallen come as the BiS trinket, but I can't pretty manage my mana with Solace + Meteorite Crystal
Is there any tips or tricks to improve the situation above?

2nd Question, I saw Diamondtear's Haste is around 924, Is it ok to way above it? Like hittting 1,000? or shall I focus more on mp5 + crits instead of haste?

3rd, How do Paragon judge which Holydin performance? Raid awareness or?

You can get extra mana from seal of wisdom. Judge when you can, it can proc from that and grant you way over 1k mana per proc.

It's ok to have higher haste. I just went for the highest ilvl items.

After a tank dies we check recount and check what happened. 90% of the time the damage was unhealable. Sometimes there are heals missing from one or both paladins, but even then it's usually bad luck. That leaves us with seeing if the paladins stand in the fire, which doesn't happen very often. You can also check if they used they cooldowns to avoid death.

[tracer123]

hey diamondtear and llonie,

My guild have started to progress in sindragosa heroic 25. I play a holy pala and wonder if you could give me any tips/advice in this fight. especially I'm liberally spamming HL on the main tank who seems to be taking intensive damage most of the time.

most of the wipes, we either see tank dieing in less than 2-3 sec, getting gibbed, warrior tank with 2 pc FR gear, ~ 60 hp buffed.

we running with 6 healer compo, 2 druids, 2 palas, 1 shaman and 1 holy priest.

are there any suggestions you can give me? maybe im timing my heals wrong?

regards,

tracer

[Ilo]

tracer123,

You should try with more healers. I think we used like 8 healers on first kill.

And how I do the fight is I heal tanks as much as I can when I don't have that Unchained Magic, and in p3 I dont reset my buffets on every block, I have always like 6x and then reset. When tank switches are bad for resetting I'll just use Divine Shield and heal and when its about to expire, fast behind block.

E: Sometimes the blocks are in good place and you can heal tanks behind it, try always get your place near the blocks and reset buffet like when you have 2 sec left in it and go behind just before you get next stack. Don't know if this helps anything. :<

[Valadath]

You can get extra mana from seal of wisdom. Judge when you can, it can proc from that and grant you way over 1k mana per proc.

It's ok to have higher haste. I just went for the highest ilvl items.

After a tank dies we check recount and check what happened. 90% of the time the damage was unhealable. Sometimes there are heals missing from one or both paladins, but even then it's usually bad luck. That leaves us with seeing if the paladins stand in the fire, which doesn't happen very often. You can also check if they used they cooldowns to avoid death.

Thanks for the quick reply,
But do you judge while you are healing Heroic Saurfang or Heroic Festergut?
I found that I will lost the Mark Of Fallen Champion Target or the tank whenever I judge (Due of 1 GCD),
therefore I need Innervate from my Resto druid sometimes... It quite makes me feel I am bad at mana management =/

and My guild is going to attempt Heroic Sindragrosa soon,
My question is, Do healer stop casting when they get Unchained Magic?

[tracer123]

thanks illonie,

ye i feel 6 healers wasnt enough, since heavy raid dmg, and i felt the healers were struggling alot. I beaconed main tank on first couple of trys and assist healing raid, but the delay in beacon heals caused tank to dropped to dangerous levels of health.

Should I beacon myself and librally spam the Main tank with HL?. Normally, i beacon the main tank and heal raid in phase 3, but the high tank dmg in heroic makes this bad idea, and I tried this 1st couple of tries, and not all heals were transferred to beacon, which was very risky at times. whats your suggestions on beacon of light? or how you normally implement this spell.

Thanks,

Tracer.