Death Knight discussion

[zYN]

Hey Synti,

You still going frost for 3.3.3 even now that pets are scaling with the ICC buff? Thanks for the help.

If things stay as they are, then yeah, most likely. I can't say for sure if it'll prove to be that much superior to my UH DPS now that I got plenty of upgrades (277 Cryptmaker for one). I'm guessing it'll still come out on top in most fights.

For comparison, I did roughly 11,950 DPS on Saurfang last week with Bryntroll. I'm still lacking a fair bit of loot - only sporting two 277 items as far as I remember. I'm expecting my 264 1h weapons to surpass that benchmark DPS in roughly all fights, probably going to get a few more 277s prior to that. It might skew the numbers slightly. Will see soon anyway how Frost handles in "real raids."


Rather positively surprised that Blizz already decided to fix the pet scaling. Now if only the pets would inherit all damage buffs (and debuffs, such as the bite on BQ) on the player as well. 8]

[zYN]

Edit: Also, why is 17/0/54 (or some variation) the best spec for arthas? I dont find myself using DnD very much on the fight, however I do use GoD for it.

The part of the fight where you really, really want to use DnD on is at the Val'kyr phase. I even glyph it instead of ghoul on that fight. There's really nothing more important than getting them down. As long as the damage isn't overkill, it's very good DPS. I usually get to cast 1-2 of them on the heroic mode, hitting 3 Val'kyrs plus LK at the same time.

Now, depending on the raid DPS, it might not be worth glyphing it just for normal mode. If that part of the fight is tight, though, there's really no reason not to glyph for it. Boosting the rDPS / helping out the raid is far more important than personal DPS.

[laskos6254]

Hello guys im giving you a link for my dk and looking forward to hear about your suggestions. I'd like some advice about my stats as im in lack of expertise and about the trinkets too.I'm thinking i should get the 5/5 legs tier 10 part for the extra expertise thow i have the 264 crafted legs that boost me more on crit and arp.Should i take the tier 10 legs or get the needed expertise from another drop?

Any suggestions appreciated thx a lot

Link:

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... anatiforos

[Myrokin]

Hi to the DKs of Paragon. First and foremost, congrats on your guys progression.

I wanted to say that I've read these discussions, and your thread on the GoD, and it did wonders for my DPS. However, I feel as though I'm peaked in a bad way.

Here is my armory link:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... cn=Myrokin

Tonight on 25 festergut, in the gear you're seeing there, I was struggling to break 9k dps, and that was WITH a rogue giving me TotT to buff my diseases which I then rolled the rest of the fight (save a run-out for a spore.) We have no enhance shaman, but the rest of the buffs are all there. 10% AP, Kings, Imp. Might, MotW, Windfury (non-improved.)

I'm wondering if maybe as UH I have entirely too much ArP? I could go back to using the Frost emblem plate belt, as it's just sitting around, but I'm not sure.

Typically, my rotation is BS, PS, IT, SS, BS (to get advantage up,) then when I get TotT, PS and IT again, then just SS and BS/Pest when I have to to keep everything, Gargoyle early with procs so I can do it again later, and ERW if I get substantial procs and have enough uptime on diseases that I can burn the death runes for SS.

I'm coming here to you because in my guild and on my server (Vashj-us) there are NO other DKs in my guild that raid consistently (sp?,) and therefore I have no basis for comparison. is 9k what I should be pulling for this gear? should I be higher? do I just need to l2p? I DO know that I need to get into my t10 pants, expertise and being dodged was causing me a lot of issues tonight.

As for the weapon (Bryntroll, eww,) I'm next in line for Shadow's Edge in our guild, and should be receiving it next week.

Please help me, and congratulations again on all your successes.

If this is the wrong thread for this question, just let me know and I'll gladly move it.

/walloftext

[zYN]

We have no enhance shaman, but the rest of the buffs are all there. 10% AP, Kings, Imp. Might, MotW, Windfury (non-improved.)

I'm wondering if maybe as UH I have entirely too much ArP? I could go back to using the Frost emblem plate belt, as it's just sitting around, but I'm not sure.

Is 9k what I should be pulling for this gear? should I be higher? do I just need to l2p? I DO know that I need to get into my t10 pants, expertise and being dodged was causing me a lot of issues tonight.

9k does sound a bit low, considering you have the +5% buff up. Is this 10-man or 25-man? Are you absolutely sure you had sunders/expose up in that raid? You know already that you're missing expertise, but you're also a bit over the hit required for alliance (assuming you have some draenei in your raid). Get the pants (or some other +expertise items) asap - it stings really bad when you get dodged when using GoD. You're also missing +5% melee crit in the setup you described.

ArP isn't a bad stat by any means. I don't mind picking up items with ArP on them, but I'd never gem for it as UH or in any way prioritize them. If it's an overall better piece than another one in the same slot, I'll definitely use it. However, by far majority of the fights have multiple targets. ArP doesn't do jack shit compared to strength (and even crit) in such fights.

On single target, I suspect strength might be losing out at stupid high levels of ArP, but I haven't bothered to do any math on it. This is simply because there's one encounter left for me in the game to kill that I haven't done and +str gemming is far superior in it as well. Even so, I wouldn't bother gemming for ArP unless it was roughly twice as good as STR.

[Myrokin]

Alright, thank you very much for your help. I'll see what happens. :)

For reference, it was 25 fester, and we did have a feral as well as a warrior tank. on any attempt I DIDN'T get a spore and could stick to him, I sat at around 8.9 to 9.3, but if I had to run out without getting to pestilence to refresh, I wound up dropping substantially.

I'll try to get a link to parses from this week's raid for reference. Thank you again!

[zYN]

Well in that case, if there was a warrior doing sunders, it's quite likely that you just got splooged by the goo. It gives something like +500% decreased attack speed as AoE.

[zYN]

I'd like some advice about my stats as im in lack of expertise and about the trinkets too.

You're horribly low on expertise and you're way, way above the spell hit cap (11% with raid buffs). NES as a trinket is pretty horrible too, you should focus on replacing that. Even the badge trinket is better.

[Isayah]

Hi there.
First of all, grats for your progression, i'm really a big fan of you guys.
Anyway, i'm here because i'm reaaally sad about my dps. I don't know what i'm doing wrong, seriously, I already read thousands of guides for unholy dps, and I know every single word of them.
Here's my armory: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... &cn=Isayah
I know that my neck and my trinket (needle) sucks, but still.. I can't stand my poorly 6k dps on ICC25.

That's what i'm doing on almost every encounter: Blood Fury > AotD > PS > IT > BS > BS > SS > Gargoyle > ERW > SS > SS > SS. And then i get 9k dps, easily. During the encounter, i keep doing: PS > IT > BS > BS > SS > DC > SS > DC > SS > SS > DC > Refresh. And then my DPS goes for 6,5k-. (Whenever my cooldowns are up, i use them, and i keep using gargoyle on BL too.)

I cant see why my dps is going so low, cause i'm doing what it was supposed to sustain at least 8k+.

So, that's it, please help me. :~

[Myrddraal]

Hi Guys,

Firstly GZ on your progression <3

I was wondering if you could help me. I dont think i am horribly geared but everyone else on this forum seems to be hitting higher than me on dps. I am roughly 9k on Saurfang, but feel like this could be improved with some positive feedback. Her is my armoury profile:

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... =Myrddraal

I know that my trinkets suck. On my next badge purchase i can either buy the belt of trinket, what would you suggest?

I noticed that you guys do not use GoDD but use GoD. Does this give you another SS on your next rotation? If not may i ask why?

I do try to play to the best of my ability so any other suggestions i would be greatly appreciate! =)

Thanks in advance!

Myrddraal <3