Death Knight UH Dual Wield, after Patch 4.06

[Vvengeance]

Hi Paragon :D.
I was just wondering about Death Knight, who go Unholy Dual Wield, since looking at your Recount for Lady Sinestra and seeing as Synti as #1 on the meters, I was wondering would the patch make him change specs? I know that there are some nerfs in the works for Unholy as Blizzard doesn't really want Unholy Death Knights to be able to Dual Wield, and making it favor 2hand more.
Thanks for reading, look forward to hearing a response.

Ps, Grats on the Kill :D

[zYN]

You'd already do closer to 10k more DPS with a proper 2H compared to dual-wield in the last phase. There's really no reason at all to go with DW UH right now anyway, unless you're lacking 2H weapon of equal itemlevel. It's just shit in comparison, really, unless you plan on fighting target dummies. In few specific circumstances a 359 ilvl 2H is superior to 2x 372 1H.

Post-patch it's just completely pointless and you can throw the 1H weapons into a trash can.

[biohazardx0]

Come on. There is no way that you are topping DPS, by a considerable margin, in the best guild in the world with DW just because you don't have a good 2her. Also, why wouldn't you have gotten a 2her by now if it does ~10k more damage? (obviously drops factors into this, but i trust that your guild could help you get a 2Her somehow!) Synti, we want your secrets! please write a guide!

[zYN]

I was just referring to the last phase on Sinestra. 2H setup is able to pull roughly 10k more DPS on single target. I was handling the whelps for most of the time, so my damage is quite high for that reason. Multiple targets make up for a lot of time spent running.

It's not uncommon for the bosses in this tier to have a special mechanic that favors 2H over dual-wield setup.


We've only gotten a few heroic itemlevel 2H weapons and two thirds of them have gone to waste. Mancheese got one and Verdisha has two.

[Masto]

Fuckin' Mancheese.

[Firyn]

First of all great work on cataclysm, as we see there are great guilds who did great jobs and still you managed to do first kills.


Synti, I have a question about your runeforging while you use DW.

Why do you use 2x Fallen crusader? As i tried on to a target dummy , you wont get 2x Buff from it , but i accept that the buff is always up. And i also tried all other runeforging and they are really bad with DW. But now i am playing with Fallen Crusader + Hurricane which makes a great difference in dps. Because as you know some weapon enchants doesnt have inner cds and therefore with fast melee speed its is really easy to up 2x hurricanes on you which gives us 900 haste and we know that haste is nearly the most important thing in UH.


And i have another question about presence in UH DW,

I use generaly Uh presence when i play UH but in dw its a bit different, because in the fight where we get BL with the beggining of the combat is it a good idea to start with Frost Presence to get more Damage buff and we would get a lot of haste from UH Frenzy, BL, Engineering Gloves etc... But i am not sure and i have never tried it...


And another question about reforgin in UH DW,

I have lots of items that give hit from Raids , For example if i have an item that gives hit + haste is it meaningfull to reforge that item but the thing is i have %11 hit and as i see a lot of DW dks use just %8 like 2 handeds and i think the reason is to get hit capped with spells or special attacks.

And still i think that if you play well with DW UH it ``can`` make more dps then with 2handed weapon. (Ofc item compositions will have great difference)

I would appreciate if you answer my questions,
Thank you for your interests,

Firyn
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